Sunday, November 15, 2009

Saying we can't reproduce the pyramids is serious BS...anyone agree?

ok so one guy wrote a book and said we can't reproduce the pyramids with modern day technology. That is the biggest bull sh*t if i ever heard it. they say stuff like "u can't fit paper between the rock"... well i should hope not seeing as they are sitting right on top of another. We have laser prescision cutting to make those rocks fit perfectly. we could use the finest of laser surveying equipment and gps to make every rock perfectly in place. Also they claim that it's impossible to get the materials there but i have personally seen a 5 ton rock floated on a average sized kayak made of thatch. Bigger rafts could hold exponentially more. they say we can't reproduce the pyramids...that is seriously the dumbest thing ive ever heard...anyone agree or am i just crazy? if not please give me evidence why we couldn't build the pyramids with modern day technology

Saying we can't reproduce the pyramids is serious BS...anyone agree?
I'm with you. If we can fly to the moon, if we can make satellites than can read the headlines on newspapers, if we can make bombs that could destroy earth a thousand times over, if we can take a heart out of a dead/dying person and place it inside another human being, and if they can sustain life on a heart that is not theirs, we can build a structure made of giant rocks.





If somebody could find a way to profit it off of it I'm sure we would see the completion of a modern day pyramid inside a year or two.
Reply:You are right about this being "ngao si" as Chinese say, "vache merde" as French say, etc. Now you know how to say BS in several languages.
Reply:Hell we could make a pyramid out of one big rock and move it to where ever you want it.
Reply:Remember that back then people were as smart as today silicon chip designers, rocket scientists that send a mission to Titan, or physicists developing the theory of quantum gravity. And they were very skilled artisans, with a lifetime to practice precision. The very first big earthquake the Conquistadors felt in South America, completely destroyed their churches but walls built by the Incas stood firmly, and again you can't slip a sheet of paper between the rocks.





Many of the so-called mysteries have been dispelled with only the materials and tools available at the time. With proficient engineering skills you shouldn't be surprised that a pyramid make take as much reverse engineering as a computer chip or a complex computer program.
Reply:Here's the problem - we don't really have as exact an idea about the pyramids as some people like to claim.





Take the famous pyramids of Giza. The protective casing stones that covered them were taken and used for other purposes six hundred years ago, and the exposed interior has been wearing away ever since. All this long before serious scientific tools were developed to measure what they were like. This means a lot of the things people say about what these pyramids were like when they were built is guesswork. Educated, perhaps, but still guesses.





So depending on what your guesses are like, some of the feats of engineering may seem impossible to duplicate by modern standards. Even now we don't toss around twenty-ton blocks like they're nothing, and it's hard to say how easy it would be for us to construct something like the pyramids because it's so far outside of how we prefer to build things. Recent research, however, suggests that even the Egyptians didn't cut and move those blocks... they MADE them (link 1).





Which underscores the point, I hope. If you're looking for inscrutable things from millennia ago, there's really no shortage of them (take the 'Bible code' for example). This doesn't really mean they were impossible to understand or do because it's far more likely that we just completely misunderstand what's going on.
Reply:We can.


It's just that the billions upon billions of dollars it would take to actually reproduce those buildings is prohibitive.


Who the hell is going to put up that kind of money for something we already have? And what the heck would they do with another pyramid like the ones in Cairo?


We can do it ... but why?


It would serve no purpose at all and it would cost more than it would be worth. I don't know of any nation or company nor individual that would want to support and finance that. White elephants are to be left alone.
Reply:Sorry, I agree with the scoffers.


In the first place, no one has ever been able to figure out how the pyramids were made.


In the second place, they are inanimate, so they can't reproduce! (Sorry, just had to throw that in.)


In India there is a temple with a roof made of a one-piece rock slab weighing more that 2,000 tons! We do not have any equipment that can pick up anything that heavy.


That is why Von Daneken swore up and down that such things were built by spacemen!
Reply:I saw a guy from Florida on Discovery Chanel who figured out how to build Stone Henge by himself using incredibly simply equipment. Of course it would be a lot faster with more people, but technically by his technique he could do it himself.





He would place a small rock under the large stones about 2/3 of the way along (using a pry bar over a fulcrum with stone weights on the other end to lift it initially). The small rock acts as a fulcrum. He places a bunch of small stones the high end of the large rock slab until it balances about the small stone with minimal effort. He can then swivel it onto another small stone. He'l then move the small rocks from one end of the slab to the other and swivel it again. He can move it like this as far as he wants. 1 person can do it. 3 or 4 can do it easily. A hundred or so could move all the stones from the quarry to the site in a pretty short time.





Once there, he sets up two wooden upright planks on each side of the slab. He then digs a hole under one end. He will place a bunch of small stones on the end of the slab until it falls slightly into the hole. The raised slab will be lifted enough to put a wooden plank under it. Then move the rocks to the other end of the slab until it leans the other way. Then you can place one plank next to the first and another one on top of that. Place some wooden planks into the hole you dug and move the rocks back until the slab falls onto the planks in the hole. Place 2 more planks on top of the first one you put down (between the uprights) and place one where the slab will land when it pivots back. Move the rocks back and the slab will pivot again. In this manner, you can jack up the slab until it is high enough. Then remove all the planks from the hole and the slab slide all the way in.





He wouldn't say how he got the stone slab on top of the standing stones, but he did it, I saw 1 completed set of 2 standing stones with a slab on top.





This doesn't really answer your question directly (or explain how to build stone henge, as it's pretty hard to follow without pictures), but it does suggest that mankind can build impressive structures with surprisingly simple methods. People were just as smart back then as we are now. By the same token, we are just as smart today as people were back then. We have the benefits of modern technology and we could build stone henge or the pyramids or any other ancient monolith a lot more easily (not economically, but the technical feat would still be easier). It's just a matter of figuring out the right way to do it, then or now.


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